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Posted: 27 May 2008 12:22 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Posted: 27 May 2008 07:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Whats the legality of hoodia in the United States?
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Posted: 27 May 2008 07:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I know it's very difficult to find one because I myself tried Hoodia brands and yes they have cheated so many consumers like me.

But probably now I know which could be the one that has the ingredients. There are so many criteria a Hoodia product needs to accompany to make it a genuine one. First off, it should accompany the CITES certficate issued by cape nature of South Africa and then the label should ascertain that the product is 100% natural Hoodia. The product should also accompany an independent lab report issued by ChromaDex or Alkemists Pharmaceuticals that authenticates the product. Also avoid going for gimmicky things like Hoodia patches, gums, shakes or coffees. They are useless and a drill to your wallet. After reading some answers to a psot of mine...I started believing weight loss should be done on an integrated approach basis. A single approach/product cannot give you at all the desired result.
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Posted: 28 May 2008 06:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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There are three articles at the time of this writing on the main Cureyourbody.com site that Caroline Cardenas wrote on Hoodia. They go way into depth on the Hoodia market and what you should watch out for.

For those that also didn't watch her video, she tested (herself) and recommended a product called Hoodia Prime.

Hoodia is 100% legal in the USA and there are no known side effects.
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Posted: 05 June 2008 04:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Can anyone tell me if they have used nuPHEDRINE. It contains 20:1 concentrate of Certified South African Hoodia, and yes, I did receive the authentication certification with the product. Is it effective and are there any side effects immediate or down the road?

I have been reading a lot about various diet pills. There are both positive and negative reviews on the same product which can become confusing for those of us that want that edge but do not know what to do.

Ultimately the only way to truly maintain a good weight and to be healthy is to eat nutritious foods and exercise. But what about trying to lose weight. I joined the gym and have tried to watch what I eat. The weight does not drop off easily. I am a 41 yr old female standing at 5'3" weight a weight of 165 lbs. I was able to maintain a good body weight of 128 - 130 for most of my life, but after the birth of my children 8 years ago I have not been able to shed the extra weight. Hear in Toronto we have a supervised medical diet clinic called Dr Burnstein. I did that for 2 months. First month not a problem I lost 20 lbs. I was able to stick to the diet and thought that this was a great idea. Only problem is they restrict all carbohydrates, even the good ones such as certain vegetables and fruits. We were only allowed to eat approx 900 cal a day as we would get B6 and B12 shots every other day that apparently you body feeds on, therefore, cravings after a while was not a problem. My down fall was that I got extremely constipated. They suggested that I take natural laxatives, but my system did not like them, where instead of taking 2 tables I would need to take 3. This in turn messed my regular rhythm. I needed to get off the diet as I was starting to get sick, and with the price tag of $500 a month, I could not afford not to stay on their plan. As soon as I was off the diet, and even thou I tried to maintain a good healthy eating plan, I gained weight. They said it is because I started to eat the carbs again. But the carbs I added was maybe 2 slices of whole wheat high fibre bread, carrots, beans, fruit. If I did not have the bread, I would then have a cup of brown rice or whole wheat pasta. Eventually with the weight gain I started back to not watching what I ate. I was getting frustrated. I tried really hard but the side effects made me spiral downwards.

Recently, I went back to the gym. I would do some weight repetitions and then I would get on the elliptical machine for 45 min. I started to notice the weight lifting was making me bulky. I am naturally more muscular than most females, therefore, doing any heavy weights or even med weights bulks me up. As for the elliptical machine, my heart rate would be around 158 to 167 bpm at full speed. Apparently this is not where I want my heart rate as this is in the athletic range and not the fat burning range of 130 to 141 bpm. Again, as I am not well versed on this stuff I did not know that I was not making any real impact to my weight loss effort. My frustration just mounted. Finally, the gym director noticed what I was doing and my body type and stopped me during my routine. He told me I was not making any real difference and then he proceeded to create a workout for me. I started this new work out this week. Apparently he has me doing very little weights as he has me doing crunches, lats, sit ups, squats, etc, and 30 minutes on the tread mill. On the treadmill I walk a fast pace for 1 minute and then incline for the next minute...up and down, up and down for 30 minutes. Apparently this is effective to target my lower part. The more you move your largest muscles...below your waist...the more fat your will burn.

Now I am at the stage of using nuPHEDRINE and also trying to eat well balance meals concentrating on antioxidants and going to the gym at least 3 times a week. I want to take nuPHEDRINE as an edge to help me with my rate of weight loss. I need to lose approx 35 lbs and I am not the type of person that has the patience to lose this amount of weight slowly. With my height and weight I look stumpy. Family members are not making this better as they remember how I was for most of my life and they hate the way I look. My husband and children are very supportive and that means a lot, but the inherited tribe still has an effect on me. My husband always stresses how beautiful I am and that he loves me any way I am, but he know that this extra weight on me is not good for my health. He is always there being supportive when I fall off the wagon when I get frustrated, but he says he knows that I will lick this at some point. My issue is that I have hunger pain and cravings...mostly for sugars...even if it is the fake stuff. I am trying to control my sugar cravings, but the hunger pains is what gets me in trouble.

If anyone has any comments on the product or have suggestions for me, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Posted: 05 June 2008 07:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Welcome to the site, PowerWithin.

I am not familiar with Nuphedrine, but there are a few things that grabbed my attention, and it is something I talk about in my articles.

First, they are making unsubstantiated claims all over their site. The one that grabbed me first is that they claim that their main ingredient, Advantra-Z is the only patented weight loss herb in America. This is totally false. They are either lying or they haven't done their research and don't know any better and are therefor violating the law by making such claims.

They claim they are the only product to use Advantra-Z at that concentration level -- again not true.

They try to lure people in with a 20X (twenty times) strength gimmick on their hoodia. There is no scientific or medical basis for that claim as far as I know. In fact, according to people I know, they could be served by the FDA for false advertising.

What they have likely done is copied other sites that are also claiming this "20X' strength product and just slapped it onto their website because it sounded cool.

They are likely getting their 20X strength from the fact that their hoodia comes from a 20 to 1 wet to dry ratio. Essentially, this means that they take 20 pounds of freshly cut plant, and by the time it is dehydrated and processed, there's 1 pound of the hoodia powder left.

That certainly doesn't mean it's 20X the strength. That is a ridiculous claim. Most of a Hoodia plant is not used or does not have the P57 molecule needed, so if they start with 20 pounds of the plant to start with, only a small fraction of that can legitimately be used in a hoodia product for weight loss.

And even if they are using 20 pounds of the chemically active plant and then drying it down to 1 pound of powdered hoodia (I don't even know if this is possible, and I will look into this for a future article), you would be left with a potentially potent powder, but it would not be 20X strength -- you would just have 20X as much hoodia material per pound than you would with the raw plant (excluding water).

There's a distinctive point there -- just because you take twice as much of something doesn't make it twice as powerful. That would be a linear increase, and all medications and herbal ingredients don't work that way. Some products won't do ANYTHING until you get a certain amount into your body, so if you're well below the threshold amount needed to make that ingredient actively work, it won't matter if you have 2X or 20X the amount until you have reached that level.

That brings me to my final point. Since I didn't see their ingredient label on their site, can you please post the ingredient list of the product along with how many mg there are of each? I am just going to take a guess here that the Hoodia content is way under dosed. Dr Houser would be better at discussing dosing regimen and he is in fact doing an article for the CureYourBody site on the topic, and it's going to be great, and NOT what you think.

So post the ingredients list and let's see what this product is about. Then we can determine if the Hoodia content is under dosed, and if the other ingredients are in order.

I'm soon going to be posting a reference to a company that is doing testing on a variety of Hoodia products on the market, and you're goingto be shocked at what you see. Some are legit, most are not.

The product I tried and mentioned in my video is called Hoodia Prime. I only tested it for short amount of time, just for the sake of testing it, and I can vouch for its effectiveness at blocking hunger. It also passed 3 independent lab tests (this is above and beyond the 6 lab tests the manufacturer claims they have done on their own product.) So Hoodia Prime is legitimate, at least for now. I'll post up other legitimate products as they are tested.

Take care,

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Posted: 05 June 2008 08:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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I am off to a meeting but I thought to quickly post the ingredients of nuPHEDRINE

This is exactly as printed on the box :

Serving size : 3 capsules

Proprietry Blend : 1500 mg

Adventra Z 30% Potency (citrus Aurantium Extract (Bitter Orange))

Certified South African Hoodia 20::1 concentrate (Hoodia Gordonii)

Slimaluma (Caralluma Fimbriata)

Other Ingredients : Vegetable Gelatin Capsules -- which may contain one or more of the following : rice powder, vegetable stearin, magnesium stearate and silica
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Posted: 05 June 2008 09:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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The dreaded 'proprietary formula.' While I understand why some companies use proprietary formulas (they want to keep their formulas from getting ripped off by others -- this happens far too often), it sucks as consumers because you don't really know how much of what you're actually ingesting. And more and more unscrupulous companies are now hiding behind the veil of the 'proprietary formula.'

Let me give you an example. I could create a product that has the following two ingredients:

1499mg of Cellulose (just a filler most often used to make capsules look fuller)
1g of Hoodia Gordonii

Now I could put 1500mg of proprietary formula on the label and claim Hoodia as being one, even though you're getting a measly 1g of hoodia per serving. You could take the whole bottle all at once and not feel anything, other than bloat.

I'm going to let Dr. Houser cover the ingredients you posted (probably should start a new thread on this over at the Analyze Your Supplements Forum)

However, there's one ingredient listed in "Other Ingredients" called Magnesium Stearate. grrr I wouldn't personally touch this product just because of that crazy ingredient. If you haven't done so, watch this video on the dangers of that substance:

http://www.CureTheBody.com

Sincerely,

Caroline Cardenas
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Posted: 05 June 2008 09:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Caroline, thank you for your reply. I tried to look up Hoodia Prime on the internet and it appears that this product is not on the market. Is it new or should I be searching for this product under a different name?

As for the ingredients that I listed previously, there is not much on the back. As I mentioned within my original post, I did receive a certificate of authentication with my order.

The three pills are to be taken as follows : 2 in the morning on an empty stomach and one during the afternoon between 2pm to 4pm.

I have only been taking these pills for 3 days now. I still get the hunger pains, and it might be just me, but I think I am getting more hunger pains than before. I find if I eat a protein around 4pm I will be satisfied for the rest of the evening. My hunger pains are mostly during the morning and early afternoon.

For breakfast today...around 8am...I had mini serving of yogurt, 1/2 c of ACAI & mixed berry juice totally 250 cals. By 10am I was hungry again. I then ate 1 slice of whole wheat high fibre bread with a fried egg...I fried it with PAM...with a total cals of 160. At 12pm I had a Nature Valley soft chew bar w 7g fat, 2g fibre and 12g sugar with total cal 160. I have consumed approx 5 glasses of water thus far too. Around 1pm I had 6 pieces of walnut totalling 3 whole walnuts with total cal 180. If I get hungry later on this afternoon around 3-4pm I will probably have my organic oatmeal cereal mixed with flex seeds, cinnamon and water with total cals 160. This will leave me with 290 cal for my dinner later on. If I have my oatmeal I try not to eat past 4pm as I know the calories for dinner will take me over my limit. If my cravings set really bad I will probably have a small salad and if needed 2-3 oz of chicken or fish. This is my usual structure of food intake in a day, and still I am unable to lose the weight. Looking at my list of food, I should be able to feel satisfied as it is filed with protein and fibre. I might go to the gym tonight as a special treat instead of my usual Mon, Wed and Fri schedule. If I do go I will need to eat something before as I know I tend to get hungry after, and eating after my workout I feel guilty as I just ate calories that I tried to work off. I can usually lose 400 cal on the treadmill, and if I stay for the elliptical machine I will lose another 500 cal in 45 minutes.

I know I am tired...with working full-time, running after two children, making dinner and doing my share of the chores, and then exercising...I am still not sure why it is so hard to lose the weight. I would lose a pound or two during the week but would end up gaining it back on during the weekend. I do not indulge on the weekend, but I do eat like a normal person and I stay within my allotted calories for my weight.

I know if I try to stay away from sweets, I will get over the craving for them. I am sure eating the Nature Valley bar does not help as it has sugar, but it is the only thing I can eat the fills the void for me. I need to find something that blocks my hunger pains. I am hoping the nuPHEDRINE will work, but I am not optimistic based on your factual reply.
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Posted: 09 June 2008 08:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I have been taking nuPHEDRINE for a week now, and I am pleasantly surpirsed. It states it has 20:1 concentration of Hoodia in it. The first three days I was not sure if this was going to work. I was still having cravings and at times it seemed as if the cravings were intensifying. I have lost 3 lbs within the first seven days, and I only went to the gym once last week, but I still remained active throughout the day as I normally do. Also, I did not have to count calories. Only difference was that I did not have cravings and nor did I reach for the sweets. Actually, on Saturday I had to make a point of eating breakfast, but then forgot about lunch as I was not hungry.

Another thing I notice about my food choices, in the past I would still reach for a sweet even if I was not hungry as this is my weakness. All weekend I was exposed to numerous different sweets, but not once did I reach for it. Usually I would say just this little piece won’t hurt, but obviously it did. Not this time!

At first I was also aprehensive about this pill due to the other ingredients which I was not sure what they would do to my system. To this day I have not had any palpitations, racing of the heart or jitters. Actually, just realized that I have alot more energy than I normally do and I feel healthier.

From my perspective, I think that this pill might be the solution for me. I will assess the overall effectiveness of this product after completing my first bottle (total 4 weeks).
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Posted: 09 June 2008 02:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Power Within - 05 June 2008 09:34 AM
Caroline, thank you for your reply. I tried to look up Hoodia Prime on the internet and it appears that this product is not on the market. Is it new or should I be searching for this product under a different name?



http://www.HoodiaPrime.com
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Posted: 24 June 2008 09:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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I remember using hoodia a few years back. I also remember how much it really helped me eat less by curbing appetite.Truly a unique supplement and surely worth a try for weight loss!
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Posted: 26 June 2008 04:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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It is very important to find scam free hoodia as there are many scams out there! Some containing just fillers and junk ingredients, not real,natural, 100% hoodia.

I've used such a scam product before and felt the difference immediately when I used the real stuff such as Hoodia Prime. It takes maybe a day or 2 to kick in , but on day 2 I wasn't feeling hungry at all!

In a month I lost about 15 pounds and am VERY happy with the results.
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Posted: 26 June 2008 08:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Caroline Cardenas - 27 May 2008 12:22 PM
This thread has been opened from the article posted on CureYourBody.com at this location:
http://cureyourbody.com/finding_scam_free_hoodia/

Post any comments related to the article here.


I just joined and I have to ask, is the Hoodia Gordonii Plus not for real that Lohan gal convinced me to buy?
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Posted: 26 June 2008 11:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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This thread has been opened from the article posted on CureYourBody.com at this location:
http://cureyourbody.com/finding_scam_free_hoodia/

Post any comments related to the article here.


I just joined and I have to ask, is the Hoodia Gordonii Plus not for real that Lohan gal convinced me to buy?


Hi KSgirl,

I imagine you would be in a better position to answer this if you purchased the product, right? Why don't you let us know.

But since you asked, here's my take on Hoodia Gordonii Plus, and we'll compare it to Hoodia Prime since that is the Hoodia product I recently reviewed and made a video of (and one that I know personally works.)


1) Hoodia Gordonii Plus only has 200mg of Hoodia per capsule based on label claim.
Hoodia Prime has 600mg of Hoodia per capsule. That's THREE times the amount of hoodia per capsule.

2) Hoodia Gordonii Plus uses and claims a 10:1 Hoodia Concentrate. If you've read my previous articles, you know that these 10:1 ratios could mean a variety of things. Often times it means it's a mixed Chinese/South African blend. You want to get only 100% Pure South African Hoodia (dont get blends.)
Hoodia Prime doesn't use a blend. It is 100% Pure South African Hoodia.

3) Hoodia Gordonii Plus doesn't seem to have any public lab analysis done on their product. They have old cites certificates, but where are the recent lab tests on the lots they are selling? There's no telling if the hoodia they sell is good or not or if it's even Hoodia Gordonii. Remember, '100% South African Hoodia' is not '100% South African Hoodia Gordonii.' There are over 20 species of Hoodia, and some manufacturers are believed to be using Hoodia that is not of the 'gordonii' species, so you get product that is essentially worthless for weight loss. Make sure it says '100% Pure South African Hoodia Gordoni' before you buy anything.
Nature's Biology (Hoodia Prime) has the lab analysis on the most recent batch of hoodia bottles released to the public, so it's only a few months old and certified by an independent lab. This is right on the Hoodia Prime website.

4) Hoodia Gordonii Plus has other ingredients added, like green tea. It only uses 25mg green tea (leaf) extract per capsule, which I believe is undredosed to start with. Dr. Houser can better answer this question. The point here is that they are filling the capsules with cheaper ingredients, even though the ingredients themselves may be good. By adding green tea, a person may also 'feel' their hoodia working, as compared to taking a pure hoodia product which you don't feel. Don't let that fool you. It's not the hoodia you are feeling.
Hoodia Prime doesn't have any additional fillers or ingredients. You get what you pay for.


So in conclusion, the 400mg (2 capsules) per serving of hoodia is underdosed in my opinion, unless you're an 80 pound teenage girl.

The price for 6 bottles is essentiall the same (Hoodia Prime: $157 vs. Hoodia Gordonii Plus: $159), but remember, you're getting 1/3 the hoodia in Hoodia Gordonii Plus. So in effect, you are paying THREE TIMES as much as you would have had you purchased Hoodia Prime. It's a no brainer.

I can't recommend Hoodia Gordonii Plus at this time. Hoodia Prime looks better on paper (by a long shot) and I personally tested it and know it works.

If you missed my original video I did on Hoodia Prime, here it is:
Hoodia Prime Review Video


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Posted: 03 July 2008 07:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Wow Caroline, you are definitely posting up some good information. Thanks a lot. I joined these forums specifically because of hoodia research. In fact, on your recommendation from your video, I purchased hoodia prime and am happy to say its doing exactly what it is supposed to.
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There's another thread on the subject here:

Hoodia Prime Thread
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Posted: 18 July 2008 03:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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I have been taking a sample of hoodiastack for three days. It is a scam. I am more hungry now than I was before taking it. I think I will try hoodia prime next.
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Posted: 24 July 2008 03:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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I'd go for the hoodia prime, it seems to be a favourite on the forums!
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Posted: 03 May 2009 05:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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There is software out there now that many of these places are able to create "C.I.T.E.S" that are fake. People must dig deeper to find good products. I wish I had done my research back when Hoodia first hit this Country, it would've saved me a lot of money and headaches. I trust Hoodia Prime. In fact, my order is on the way. I did my research and this is my choice. I also hear good things about "RUSH" and Desertburn.
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Posted: 06 May 2009 11:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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If you want to buy genuine hoodia products, you can go to their website and order it. There are lots of people making fake products.
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